>Egemen 2009 (Updated)
15 Mar 2009 11 Comments
>This week a multinational military exercise called Egemen-2009, will start in Turkey.
There is absolutely nothing on the Turkish news and defence portals about this exercise and about the participants except the fact that this exercise will happen. Therefore it is very difficult to determine the exact order of battle.
Among the participants are Taurus 2009 task force of Royal Navy, undisclosed Dutch, French and US warships.
10 of these warships, 5 Dutch, 4 US and 1 British, are in Aksaz Naval Base in Marmaris. HMS Bulwark is in town of Marmaris. HMS Ocean and RFA Mounts Bay are in Kuşadası.
I would appreciate any kind of information about the participants and about the exercise from the readers.
UPDATE:
The information about 10 warships in Aksaz Naval base may not be true. The number of the Dutch warships has decreased to two. And 3 of the US warships were vistinig the base on their way back to the States.
The order of battle of Egemen 2009 exercise (as of 14th March)
L-800 HNLMS Rotterdam
L-801 HNLMS Johan De Witt
L-15 HMS Bulwark
L-12 HMS Ocean
L-3008 RFA Mounts Bay
A-386 RFA Fort Austin
F-82 HMS Somerset
Thanks for Kobus of NOSINT for the info about Dutch warships.
>According to a Dutch newspapers HNLMS Rotterdam and HNLMS Johan de Witt will participate. HNLMS Johan de Witt will be used as a command-platform for the Turkish exercise-staffsource: http://www.noordhollandsdagblad.nl/nieuws/stadstreek/denhelder/article4473131.ece/Marine_oefent_met_Turken
>Both Dutch ships are to sail to Constanza (Köstence) in Romania afterwards. Have you heard anything about that in Turkey?(HNLMS Johan de Witt is over the 15,000tons the Montreux Convention permits, or is there a clause for ships (partially) built in one of the Black Sea nations, as the Johan de Witt was?)
>@gvg:The Montreux allows the non black Sea nations to have warships in the Black sea up to 45.000 tons totally. Currently there is only USS Klakring in the region with ca. 4500 tons displacement.Rotterdam is 12750 tons and Johan De With is 16680 ton fully loaded. together their displacement is 29430 tons and within the limits of the Treaty.
>@Saturn 5I can’t find the text of the convention itself online, but on several websites it is mentioned that the treaty has a passage that no capital ships (those over 15,000 tons displacement) of non-Black Sea powers are permitted to transit the straits at any time.
>@gvg:Vikipedia:http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montr%C3%B6_Bo%C4%9Fazlar_S%C3%B6zle%C5%9FmesiHas the full text, in Turkish. Read article 18 for the 45.000 tons clause.
>I saw what appeared to be the HNLMS Rotterdam transiting the Strait of Gibraltar towards the Atlantic yesterday at 16:20hrs CET. It was preceded by what appeared to be a US Wasp Class LHD. Identification with greater certainty impossible due to distance and haze.
>@ Albert:Thank you very much for this update. The Dutch ships did made a detour to Albania after leaving Romania. Now they must be heading home.
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