Technical Specifications Of Turkish LPD

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L-61 SPS Juan Carlos 1

I have received a copy of the press release made by Defense Industry Undersecretariat, after posting my blog about the Turkish LPD project.

I have created the below table with the information on the press release to make a comparison between the Spanish Juan Carlos, Australian Canberra and Turkish LPD, all based on the same Navantia design.

Canberra Juan Carlos Levent
Displacement (tons) 27.500 27.500 19.000
Length (meters) 230 230 200
Speed (knots) 19 21 20
Range (n. miles) 9.000 9.000 7.000
Crew 240 295 240

Please mind that the information about the Turkish LPD is estimations and may change during the course of the project.

The crew will be 190 sailors, 56 air crew, 50 medical staff, 200 command staff and up to 700 marines.

The LPD will be able to carry 13 MBT’s, 27 armored amphibious attack vessels, 6 armored personnel carriers and 33 truck in the garage bay.

The air component will consist of 4 at least 15 ton helicopters on the flight deck and 4 at least 15 ton helicopters or 3 UAV’s in the hangar.

 

Turkey Has Chosen Its New Dreadnought

Soon under a Turkish flag!

Soon under a Turkish flag!

On 27 December 2013 the Defence Industry Executive Committee made a statement consisting of just one sentence:

After the completion of the evaluation of the bids for Landing Platform Dock (LPD) project by Defense Industry Undersecretariat, on 26 December 2013, the Defense Industry Executive Committee decided to start contract negotiation with the Sedef Ship Building Company; and if the negotiations with Sedef Ship Building Company should fail the negotiations shall continue with Desan Ship Building Company.

The Turkish of official statements can be very long and confusing and sometimes ignorant of grammar rules and as I wanted to remain royal to the one sentence of the original statement the translation is less than perfect. I do apologies for that.

The statement might be small but its importance is huge. This statement declares that Turkey Navy is about to enter into the Dreadnought Owners Club of the 21. Century. As you see the large amphibious ships with docking and flight capability are the new Dreadnoughts of our era.

Large amphibious ships are the only real multi-purpose ships of any navy can posses. The are the naval equivalent of Swiss army knives.

The potential uses for a large amphibious ships can be:
• force projection (the most obvious use)
• evacuation of combatants and non-combatants
• command ship for task force
• logistical supply platform during a humanitarian crisis or disaster
• mother-ship for small boat operations and helicopters
• mine warfare (as all large amphibious ships of Turkish Navy have mine laying capability)

In 2006 , The Commander of Turkish Naval Forces Admiral Yener Karahanoğlu, laid down the long terms amphibious ship acquisition goals for Turkish Navy:
• One LPD
• Two LST’s
• 8 fast LCT’s
• 27 AAV/AAAV’s

The first project to start according to this road map was the procurement of 8 LCT’s. In 2007, Ministry of Defence’s Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (UDI), submitted a Request for Proposal (RfP) for 8 LCT’s. From the four companies that bid, ADİK shipyard was chosen. On June 2009, a contract was signed between UDI and ADİK for the production of 8 ships. The exact value of the contract was not made public but it is estimated to be around 100 million EUR. The first ship Ç-151 was launched on 2 October 2010. All 8 units have been delivered to Turkish Navy by December 2013.

The procurement of the LST’s was the second project. For the LST’s UDI submitted a RFP on May 2008. On 6 January 2010 again ADİK shipyard was declared as the winner of the bid. A contract for the construction of two new LST’s was signed between Ministry of Defence and ADİK in 2011. The first ship will be delivered in 48 months after the signing of the contract.

The tender process for LPD has started in 2011 when UDI submitted the RfP. In May 2011, three Turkish shipyards, Deasan, RMK Marine and Sedef submitted their bids for RfP to design and build a LPD type ship. RMK Marine submitted their own design, Sedef teamed with Navantia and submitted a redesigned Juan Carlos 1. The most secretive bid was Deasan’s. The shipyard teamed with China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation which builds the Type 071 amphibious ships for PLA(N).

With this weeks announcement Sedef – Navantia partnership was selected for the largest warship, Turkish Navy will operate.

The details of are vague but according to the Twitter account of Navantia, the Spanish company will provide the engines, the turbine, the IPMS (Integrated Platform Management System) and LCM-1E landing craft.

I’m quite sure that many Spaniards at the economically beleaguered Navantia are celebrating this decision. Navantia was the only company that was able to give a working example of the ship it  offered The RMK Marine’s bid exists only on paper and nobody know much about the Chinese solution much expect it is being constructed. The LPD project is a huge project in every sense and it seems that no body wanted to take any risks by choosing a non-existing ship.

When commissioned she will be the capital ship of Turkish Navy. The dreadnought era of Turkish Navy has started.

Russia And Greece Signed An Agreement On Military Cooperation

Last week Russia and Greece signed an intergovernmental agreement on military cooperation, during the visit of Russian Defense minister Sergei Shoigu to Athens.

It is worth of mentioning that this visit was conducted just before Athens will take the Presidency of EU for the next 6 months staring in 1.1.2014. Greece is NATO’s only member country to pursue fruitful military technological cooperation with Russia.

We signed an agreement that opens new frameworks and new boundaries for our further work in the sphere of military-technical cooperation,” Sergei Shoigu told journalists after talks with his Greek counterpart Dimitrios Avramopoulos in Athens.

The deal concerns armaments supplied previously as well as military hardware, maintenance and new hardware supplies, Shoigu said.

A Russian deputy defense minister, Anatoly Antonov, said after the talks that Shoigu had proposed that Avramopoulos consider working out an agreement to streamline the procedure for Russian navy vessels calling at Greek ports.

Antonov said the two defense ministers had also discussed the possibility of holding personnel training events and exchanging experience in the fight against terrorism and piracy, as well as other areas of cooperation.

This new agreement will make it easier for Russian ships to dock at Greek port during their deployment in the Mediterranean thus making Greece a reliable alternative to the Syrian port Tartus.

According to Greek blog SManalysis, Russia will help Greek Navy to support the Zubr class hovercraft. Greek Navy has procured 4 of these air-cushioned landing craft. Three of them joined the Greek Navy in 2001 and the last one in 2005. They have a displacement of 550 tons and can carry up to 130 tons military material: 3 main battle tanks or 10 armored personnel carriers or 230 troops.

One of them was decommissioned in 2010 and the operational status of the remainder was dubious.

TCSG Güven Commissioned

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TCSG Dost, sister ship of TCSG Güven seen here during one of the builders trials.

The third off shore patrol vessel for the Turkish Coast Guard, SG-702 TCSG Güven was delivered today to the end user.

The design of the these ships are based on the Sirio class vessels produced by Italian Fincantieri. With the commissioning of these ships Coast Guard will be able to perform its duties mainly search and rescue in sea state 5 and higher.

The contract for the construction of 4 ships at RMK Marine Shipyard was signed on 16 January 2007. The keel of the first ship TCSG Dost was laid on 3 May 2008. She was launched on 9 June 2010 and was supposed to enter service last year.

These are the first large ships of the Turkish Coast Guard which never used any boat with a large displacement than 200 tons. Their primary task will be search and rescue missions on heavy seas and in bad weather when the smaller boats cannot operate. Secondary missions will be showing the flag, patrolling the seas and prevention of smuggling.

The first two ships SG-701 TCSG Dost and SG-703 TCSG Umut were commissioned in May 2013. The forth ship SG-704 TCSG Yaşam is scheduled to be commissioned in January 2015.

This ceremony was also a good opportunity for RMK Marine to polish its reputation and maybe to mend its tainted relations with the government.

TCG Kemalreis Got A New Radar

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MEKO 200 Track IIB class frigate F-247 TCG Kemalreis on Bosphorus. Her original AWS-9 radar was replaced with Smart Mk2 3D radar.

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We had a nice sun set today.

The Barbaros (MEKO 200 Track IIB) class frigate TCG Kemalreis was sighted today passing through Bosphorus with her new radar.

When these ships were commissioned they had BAE Systems AWS-9 3D radar to provides long-range surveillance and target indication data. But the difficult and sometimes dangerous maintenance and the structural complexity of the AWS-9 radars made this change necessary.

TCG Kemalreis is the 7th ship in Turkish Navy to receive this radar. The others are F-246 TCG Salihreis, F-495 TCG Gediz, F-496 TCG Gökova, F-497 TCG Göksu, F-511 TCG Heybeliada, F-512 TCG Büyükada.

6th Naval Systems Seminar

6th Naval Systems Seminar will be taken place by the support of Undersecretariat Defence Industry (SSM) in November 28-29, 2013 at METU Cultural and Conventional Center in
Ankara.

The aim of the seminar is;
• to increase the common knowledge on the subject of naval systems,
• to improve mutual collaboration for better capabilities,
• to be aware of the abilities of the related universities / experimental institutes and companies in the sector,
• to share different strategies and guides developed for the design and production of the systems at naval defence and security issues.

Naval Systems seminar has become a traditional. It is a good venue to network at get the latest news, rumors and information about the on going projects. 

If you wonder what it is like click here.

Turkish Coast Guard Boats Get New Sensors

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I regret any misunderstanding that my previous post may have caused. I was just away temporary for a week-long holiday. That was all.

The photos you see above are the Coast Guard boats I have encountered during the week in various coastal towns.

The last photo of the SG-80 TCSG-80 is the most interesting of them all for me. As you can see below enlarged, Turkish Coast Guard has started to install a thermal imaging system to its boats. This is long-due addition to these boats sensors. This particular sensor suite look very similar to Aselsan’s Falconeye electro-optical sensor system. If this is the case than the system has thermal imaging system, a high performance day TV, target acquisition system and a laser pointer. Four boats of various classes have received this new sensor already. Read more of this post

TCG Karamürselbey On Bosphorus

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Turkish Sarucabey class landing ship NL-124 TCG Karamürselbey passing southbound, through Bosphorus on 29 September 2013. Photo: Deniz Yaman. Used with permission.

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Turkish Sarucabey class landing ship NL-124 TCG Karamürselbey passing northbound, through Bosphorus on 7 October 2013. Photo: Eser Çelebiler. Used with permission.

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Turkish Sarucabey class landing ship NL-124 TCG Karamürselbey passing northbound, through Bosphorus on 7 October 2013. Photo: Eser Çelebiler. Used with permission.

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Turkish Sarucabey class landing ship NL-124 TCG Karamürselbey passing northbound, through Bosphorus on 7 October 2013. Photo: Eser Çelebiler. Used with permission.

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Turkish Sarucabey class landing ship NL-124 TCG Karamürselbey passing northbound, through Bosphorus on 7 October 2013. Photo: Eser Çelebiler. Used with permission.

Russian Ropuchas and Alligators are not the only landing ships pass through the Bosphorus. Here are photos of our indigenous NL-124 TCG Karamürsel showing her two recent passages.

She is the sister of NL-123 TCG Sarucabey and both are enlarged version of the now deleted Çakabey class.These ships can carry 600 troops, 11 tanks and 2 LCVP’s and have mine laying capability as a secondary role. Hence the letter “N” on the pennant number. Both were constructed now closed Taşkızak Naval Shipyard.

Most probably both TCG Sarucabey and TCG Karamürselbey will be replaced by the new landing ship class being constructed at ADIK Shipyard.

The Keel Of The Third Milgem Corvette Will Be Laid On Friday

The Milgem project will make an important step on 27 September 2013.

The 27th September, the anniversary of the Battle of Preveza, celebrated as the Turkish Naval Forces Day.

This year the second Milgem class corvette F-512 TCG Büyükada will enter into service and the keel of the third ship F-513 TCG Burgazada will be laid at the Istanbul Naval Shipyard.

This is the big step. As reported earlier the tender for the construction of the 6 additional Milgem class corvettes at the RMK Shipyard was cancelled and the future of the programme was in uncertainty.

The plan was, that the third ship was going to be constructed at the naval shipyard in Istanbul where the personnel of the private shipyard would receive a hands on training on the how to build a naval warship like a naval shipyard.

Turkish Navy cannot afford, not to have more Milgem class corvettes thus they must have stepped in and decided to go ahead with the construction of the third ship themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Troubled Waters For The Milgem Project?

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F-511 TCG Heybeliada, in Istanbul.

The Turkish armament procurement agency UDI is preparing for a renewed tender for the Milgem-S construction Project according to the news in Turkish media.

UDI will invite RMK ile Dearsan, Desan, ADİK, İstanbul, Sedef ve Yonca Onuk shipyards for this second tender.

Earlier this month, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan signed the report prepared by the Prime Ministry Inspection Board, which concluded that the contract was not in the best interest of the public and should be cancelled.

According to the contract the Turkish private shipyard RMK Marine was supposed to build 6 Milgem-S class corvettes for Turkish Navy. The contract was worth of USD 2.5 Billion.

In early 2013, the UDI, choose RMK as the main contractor for the Milgem-S construction. Both parties were about to complete the contract negotiations when the Prime Ministry Inspection Board started its inspections after receiving an official complaint from another shipyard.

This cancellation and renewal of the tender process stretches the acquisition procedure at least for another couple of years. Now the complete process of issuing RfI’s getting the RfP’s evaluationg the bids, etc. starts a new.

Two weeks ago, Turkish Navy issued a letter saying that it was ready to produce the remaining 6 Milgem in the Istanbul Naval Shipyard- where the existing two ships were constructed if it seems to be necessary. This is an act of desperation to prevent any prolongation.

The Istanbul Shipyard will be involved in the construction of the MILGEM follow-on build programme. According to UDI, whichever yard wins the MILGEM follow-on build programme will build its first ship – the third of the class – at Istanbul Naval Shipyard to benefit from the prior knowledge built up by the Turkish Naval Forces during the construction and integration of the first two vessels.

F-512 TCG Büyükada making a northbound passage on Bosphorus.

F-512 TCG Büyükada making a northbound passage on Bosphorus.

The Turkish Navy will get its Milgem class corvettes in the end come rain or come shine. But the cancellation of the Milgem tender derails the new type of procurement UDI was trying to implement. One may also argue that this cancellation may have effectively killed it.

What UDI was trying to carry out was to create shipyards with special abilities or centers of excellence in certain ship types. The Yonca-Onuk shipyard which constructs Kaan Class interception boats for Turkish Coast Guard is one of such COE’s. They are high specialised in constructing high speed boats made of composite materials.

UDI had identified seven yards – ADIK, Çelik Tekne, Dearsan, Desan, Istanbul Denizcilik, RMK Marine and SEDEF – as candidates to meet the needs of the naval programme across the surface warship and amphibious/auxiliary categories. The goal of UDI was to narrow down the candidates to between four and five qualified yards, of which two would service the complex warships build programme, while the rest would compete to build afloat support and amphibious vessels.

RMK and Dearsan shipyards were destined to be shipyards specialised in construction of complex steel warships. Apparently the plans of UDI were not appreciated by someone in the Turkish shipyard industry.

This is very ironic as I can recall that the most senior officials at UDI were openly complaining that they failed to create an interest at the Turkish Shipyards when UDI was trying to start various naval construction projects 5 – 6 years ago. The shipyards were very picky at that time as they were cosily building ships for the civilian usage with the civilian standards. But after the global economic crisis in 2008 the orders for the civilian ships has dried up and suddenly, the once ignored naval construction projects started to look very interesting.

But in the meantime, UDI has –rightly- decided that the needs of the Turkish Navy won’t be enough to keep all the shipyards occupied. Therefore UDI devised the plan to create specialised shipyards. Now this plan might be dead with the renewal of the MILGEM follow-on build programme.

In a few weeks, when the process of the second bids get really underway, we will see how long the construction of the follow up ships will be delayed and if the UDI’s plan to create specialised shipyards did survived.

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